Mr. Schroeder was interviewed while at the Loyola University Medical
Center Hospital. He stated that he had obtained two weather briefings before
his departure on the accident flight: 4:00 to 4:30 P.M., while at work, and
5:00 to 5:30 P.M. at the airport.

Mr. Schroeder was asked to describe the pre-flight inspection he
performed. According to Mr. Schroeder, the preflight inspection was typical
and did not reveal anything unusual. He describes the inspection in detail.
He stated that N5411K had been sitting outside during an eight day period if
almost continuous rain. Mr. Schroeder indicated that he was particularly
careful when he checked his fuel because of this.

When asked how he examined the fuel in the wing tanks and fuel
gascolator he stated he took a sample of fuel using the cup provided (a
small fuel sampler made of clear plastic which holds approximately 2-3 ounces
of fuel and has a small metal shaft protruding upward from the sampler's
internal center). He stated that he looked at the fuel using his flashlight
and observed it to be blue in color. He stated that he did not observe any
water in the fuel samples drawn.

Mr. Schroeder was asked how he checked the fuel quantity. He stated
he checked the fuel gauges when he is in the cockpit, before doing the walk
around, and observed both indicators showing full fuel. He added that
during the walk around he got up on the wing strut and visually checked the
fuel in the tank. He stated that he did this prior to starting the airplane.

At this point in the conversation he stated that his memory is very
vague. He had recall of initiating the climbout after takeoff but could not
recall details of the flight and/or crash. He stated his father and he
were communicating about the flight after he came out of surgery. He
recalled that his father stated he told his father he was getting
conflicting readings from the turn and bank indicator, and the attitude
indicator. He stated he could not recall this information firsthand. He
stated that he recalls a strong negative "G" condition at sometime during his
flight.

When asked how he checks his gyro instruments prior to instrument flight
he stated that he checked the turn and slip indicator during taxi. He stated
that he observes the vacuum gauge for the attitude and heading indicator
before and after he adjusts these two instruments. He stated that the
vacuum gauge displayed a middle of the gauge position (green colored arc).
The question was asked if he had heard any sounds coming from the cockpit
area after he switched the battery master switch on during his pre-flight
inspection. He stated he cannot recall any. He was asked the same question
regarding his runup process. He stated that he cannot recall hearing any
sounds other than the engine. He stated that he sometimes hears a loud
squealing when the master switch is turned on. He didn't hear this at all.
When asked if he knew what the sound was he stated he did not.

INTERVIEWING AIR SAFETY INVESTIGATOR: F. S. GATTOLIN